This is the first real question centered post I’ve done, we’ll see if it gets any responses and what they are. But first, a quote to set the mood.
Get thee to a nunnery: why wouldst thou be a
breeder of sinners? I am myself indifferent honest;
but yet I could accuse me of such things that it
were better my mother had not borne me: I am very
proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offences at
my beck than I have thoughts to put them in,
imagination to give them shape, or time to act them
in. What should such fellows as I do crawling
between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves,
all; believe none of us. Go thy ways to a nunnery.
At what point in your process is everyone else, or did everyone else, start taking down those pedestals?
I’m doing it first, paired with some small lessons in game and day approaches. Is this what other people are doing or are they working on game first? Or are the two inseparable?
There’s a couple reasons for my focusing on taking the pedestal away first.
One, I’m living on a tight budget which is further enhanced by Christmas. This is a time of year I get less work and am expected to spend more. I make a point of telling family that this isn’t going to happen, but I do have increased expenses no matter how I approach it.
Two, I haven’t found a wing man yet. I’m new to the city I’m in and my best wingman isn’t moving here till Feb. I’m saving my resources for where I think they’ll be best – when I have more experience through the day approaches and less pedestalization. But he has some game, we’ve made plans to get a gym membership together, and I’ve already scoped out some local bars I think will suite our style.
Three, I notice a huge increase in game depending on where I am in my cycle of taking away that pedestal. So I’m working on that while studying game and paying close attention to interactions of those around me.
Question – Are these actually decent reasons or excuses? Its hard for me to tell.
Does everyone else feel they rebuild their pedestals for women?
I ask this because I’ve found mine own go through cycles. It tends to look something like this.
Pedestal crumbles and nearly collapses. I have one to several days feeling great, viewing the world in a new light, and generally feeling empowered. I have and will use the knowledge to avoid the dangers, pit falls, and blue pill pushers on my path to living a full, complete life.
After a few days, something sets me off that gets me angry, depressed, or frustrated with the world. A particularly bad hamster encounter, seeing a friend miserable but unable to help, or just some inane thing.
In this weekend state, my beta tendencies rush in, gather the pieces of the pedestal and some super glue, and push the mess together into some deformed, monstrous obelisk.
Then I have to find ways to tear down the pedestal again. Articles, scientific studies, blogs, memories of past relationships, anything I can find. I use them as a sledgehammer or chisel to take down the obstacle before me, knowing I need to see clearly, draining my energy in the process.
How are people destroying their pedestals?
I listed them quickly, but I use the things I expose my mind and thinking to in order to get rid of it. I try to look at the studies objectively. I also read things like Roosh, Roissy, Badger, Dalrock, Rollo, and a couple others. Roosh, Dalrock, and Badger are the ones I probably know the best and use them in various ways. They give a well rounded view that appeals to my brain and is able to refute every level of my beta-driven, ingrained tendencies to work towards the ones that I know make me happy by my brief experiences and experiments with them. That is, before the process described above ruins it again.
I’ll be honest in that sometimes I seek out and take Roosh or and Dalrock when I need to destroy the whole thing over again. The sledgehammer I mentioned. Basically I know I’m overshooting where I imagine I’ll end up on my opinions of women for the express purpose of taking this pedestal away. Otherwise I find myself rationalizing it away. Then I add a dash of Badger’s more balanced opinions – the ones I think I’ll end up closest too in the end. Plus, Badger makes me laugh and I usually need it at that point.
Its a rollercoaster, and it hurts
Namely, it creates a cycle of mainly negative feelings for both myself, society, and people in general. Those couple days without a pedestal feel great, the rest of the time I’m miserable. I’d love for suggestions on how to avoid it and get out of this feedback loop. I just recently realized what was going on, so I haven’t been able to self analyze yet and pinpoint what starts the re-pedestalization.
If people have suggestions for things to avoid doing, reading, ect; I’m all ears.
In addition to my experiences, here are some of the articles in the last couple days influencing these thoughts
You know, in case you’re curious and looking for the advice of some of the major writers on the subject like I am. These are actually some of the newer blogs on my radar, and of them I’ve only read Alpha Game for more than a few days.
Plus, like I said, I want to be honest about where I’m getting my thoughts and opinions. To both document them so I can study them in the future if I want, and so that anyone going through this with me can use these to assist in their own journey
Alpha Game and his advice on the important places to start
Rollo describing social conditioning and how to fight it
Fly Fresh and Young on the idea of Honor and how men who followed it did/are getting screwed
Lastly, I just found this site yesterday. I loved the debunking of Male Priviledge and the start of Blue to Red pill they have there. I wish the first article had more info on the wage earnings they mentioned earlier in the article, but it was interesting as a read. I’ll be spending more time at their site.
Let the doors be shut upon him, that he may play the
fool no where but in’s own house. Farewell.